But the one thing that really gets under my skin, scratching away is: The AFL's lies.
I read alot of blogs about myself, and take most of them with a grain of salt, but recently, this one paragraph keeps blowing up in my face, which I cannot refuse to express my anger and concern about it anymore..
“There would have been at least 20 occasions were there has been meetings that we (AFL) have been involved in with this girl and we’ve also provided her with counseling service, support services, certainly accommodation, we’ve offered her assistance to provide counselling, we’ve offered support to her parents. We take these matters very seriously when we’ve got a person in our organisation that's responsible for looking after these matters."
I don't understand how the AFL can continue to say that, and lie to the media - Obviously to make themselves look better.
But let's talk truth for a moment;
1- Meeting with the AFL at least 20 times?
- They're kidding you, as I recall; I've only ever walked through the doors of the AFL house a maximum amount of 5 times.
The First: Back in May, when things were first released to the public and AFL; RE: Pregnancy.
The Second: A private investigative matter.
The Third: As above.
The Fourth: Around November was the last time I made contact with Sue Clark (Head of Respect and Responsibility), I'd organised to meet with her a few days before hand to give a statement on Steven Baker (Of St.Kilda; #10) sending me abusive facebook messages which were completely irrelevant, in respect that I'd never met him before. On the day, Clark asked to see the photo's which she had obviously heard about through Ricky Nixon a few days prior.
Clark saw them, and just advised me not to publish them out of respecting their privacy.
No threats, No [DO NOT DO THAT], nothing really, just a simple "I don't think you should do that, but it's your decision."
So, summing that rumour up, If in the AFL world, they choose to "times (x5)" everything by 5, then sure I did meet them 20 times?
2. Provided me with Counselling, Accommodation and Support Services?
Oh, okay? This is news to me.
I'd LOVE to know when I was offered counselling! I was never offered counselling, accommodation, support services, counselling with my parents? Nothing!
Now, that I am confused with.
As I recall, I remember showing up to the AFL house, and having to give an almost 2 hour Phone conference statement to Sue Clark; regarding a sexual assault matter, involving a player.
How comforting, exploiting details of my horrible experience through a phone that's on loudspeaker with two other people I've never met before in the room.
After Sue learnt that I had no-where to stay that night, and after "Trying her hardest", She resulted in calling "Beck" who I mentioned earlier in my other blogs.
Tell me how a multi-million? Billion? dollar company cannot afford $80 a night for a hotel.
Regardless, I was happy to go back with Beck, but still, I didn't feel satisfied in what had just happened; Not the accommodation, the statement.
Jumping back to May, After I left the AFL house, Sue gave me a lecture, like she does in most times that I meet with her, and I could just tell by the tone of her voice that nothing was going to eventuate from my statement, everyone would be cleared of any wrong-doing.
And as I sat in the conference room recently; I again could read her voice.
I can tell now, nothing is going to happen. I don't know why I bother sometimes, In-between her saying "Riiighhhttttt" (For anyone who's met her will understand what I'm talking about),the poker-face; Similar to the psychologist I was talking about earlier, and the tone in her voice which shows NO sympathy.
She's a tough lady to read, but it was crystal clear to me what was going to happen.
I just wish that the AFL would realise that I will stand up to them, and even though I know that the amount of people on my side is barely a 30:70 ratio, I feel strong that I'm telling this story.
We can only wait and see what happens.
Kim. x x
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 275 of 275icoach
so youve just plucked out of your bum , no evidence , not even any kind of logical basis to propose the allegation
you have the dumbest comments of anyone here I suggest Kim delete everything you have written when she gets a chance , pointless BS
iCoach, are u saying she said it... was that on Formspring? Are you familiar with the term "taking the piss"?
Fantasist.
@Zorro - that's what Kim does. SHe deletes any comments that don't go along with her agenda. Have you JUST realised that?
Trust me on this.... lol There isn't anyone I would be less likely to trust. You take opinion as fact. You spout opinion and PR blunderbust as fact. You can't understand the nature of posts in a medium such as Formspring.
I imagine you have been lying back back, taking yourself very seriously, treating yourself to a very good time, Dal Santo style.
Fantasist.
iCoach No, I asked about the source of the reports you mentioned, not your estimate.
@Frank? You keep asking for a source, and I keep telling you that Kim herself confirmed that my "estimate" was undervalued. Yet you keep asking for a source. If the horses mouth isn't good enough for you, what do you expect me to give you, pray tell?
iCoach "Frank, the players HAVE said that they have never met her."
Have they? Where?
Birdwatcher - you accuse me of taking opinion as fact, yet you accept the word of a repeatedly proven liar as gospel.
iCoach, are you saying Kim confirmed (as in it was an underestimate) on Formspring, or was it Twitter? We are waiting for words from the Oracle.
Fantasist.
icoach
yes of course I realize it Im encouraging her to delete all your comments because you a toxic idiot. You post the same thing over and over, you make up delusional fantasies about her and youre abusive
So when she get around to it you wont exist anymore and thats the smart thing to do :)
So youre wasting your time all you commments will be deleted
Frank said, "the players HAVE said that they have never met her."
I know that Frank. That's what I've been saying all along. It's good that you finally are seeing the truth.
Just for the record, I take no opinions as gospel. You assert things as fact..... Just show us where? Gilbert and Armo have denied ever meeting Kim? Where have they done that ?
Zorro, why do you think Kim has deleted all the other negative comments, and all the comments that don't go along with her latest agenda, but has left all my comments in place? Think about it Zorro. WHy do you think that is? The answer is that my comments DO go along with her agenda. Her agenda is to get sympathy and attention from uneducated teenagers and bad parents like you and Birdwatcher and the other follower (I forget his name right now) she has on this blog site.
Only one player has publicly stated that he does not know the St Kilda School Girl.
Who are the others Coach?
Hey iCoach, what do you know of my parenting ability? Apart from St Nick, where have the players, Gilbert & Armo, denied ever meeting Kim? How bout tell us if your $80,000 fantasy is based on a Formspring answer? And I am still waiting for your email (when your nuts eventually drop).
You fantasist.
@iCoach 2.0 I have no idea who the others are as I don't follow AFL.
So if you can please name the players that have publicly denied meeting the St Kilda School Girl.
If what you say is true it shouldn't be hard to substantiate.
iCoach 2.0 said...
"@Birdwatcher - I can't comment on your parenting skills because I don't know you. I'm not in the habit of judging people I don't know - never have."
So you do know the St Kilda School Girl!
iCoach, you said "if the reports are true". WHAT reports?
@Birdwatcher
What is it you are trying to achieve? If you're going to go to sponsors what are you going to ask them to do?
There's nothing specific in any of this "fight". Regardless of the outcome Kim's very likely going to be dealing with this for many years to come.
As Anna said: "I just hope for Kim's sake that this fight is worth it, and I wonder whether she has the foresight to make that judgement (or if any 17 year old does)"
At the moment all I can see is a "fight"...I'm still not sure what would define a win, but I think a loss is guaranteed.
Hey iCoach... once again you avoided every clear question put to you by me and others. You back away from judgement after saying we are "uneducated teenagers and bad parents like you and Birdwatcher and the other follower".... Either you are stupid, or you just became the kind of unprincipled liar you keep saying Kim is.
You don't judge? Then a public apology please?
You are a self-important fantasist.
@the Colonel - as there are currently around 2 million people who currently play Australian Rules football in this country, I'm not going to sit down and type all the names of players who have NOT had sex with Kim. I think it's more to the point for HER to say who raped her - and not for everyone else who hasn't even met her to defend their names. Surely that's the fairest thing don't you agree?
It's easy for her to sit back and say that a footy player raped me, and then shut up. Why does that mean that every single player in the country has to deny it was him just to satisfy you? The onus of proof is on her, not the 2 million players in this country.
Blackmask - withdraw support until clubs and AFL take the relevant policies seriously. Big ask, but why have a policy if you never intent to apply it?
I stand corrected iCoach 2.0 I was under the impression from your comments that you knew the individual players involved in this saga. So is it just the St Kilda School Girl that you know?
For anyone that has just read Kim's latest tweet, you'll see she is (again) being deliberately elusive. She said some fun is beginning, but won't say what, even when asked. This has been how the entire story has been played. She makes some obtuse comments, watches as others fill in the blanks for her, then once she has received enough support, she proceeds forward with a story. I am quite sure that none of what she said in the WHO article is her own words.
The entire situation has been played out this way. If you have carefully followed the story, you'll see she says nothing specific until others have said it for her. It's like watching a John Edwards show.
iCoach: "Frank said, "the players HAVE said that they have never met her.""
If you weren't so toxic I might give you the benefit of the doubt and think that you had misread my post rather than deliverately changing it to say what I did not.
So I'll ask again: WHERE did the players say they had never met her?
@Frank. Where did I "change your post"? I reposted it exactly as you typed it. Please apologise or explain yourself?
iCoach "The onus of proof is on her, not the 2 million players in this country."
No, you said that the players had denied knowing her. You were asked to substantiate that. As usual, you have avoided the question.
Braid - and the thousands of followers wait with baited breath. Why would Kim not play it the way she is when no one directly answers the points she raises? iCoach and his ilk forget that there are police investigations underway. I would be keeping the spindoctors and club managers and players on their toes. The last thing they want is a situation where the non-football media and the players named come into contact, even better if Kim was there too.... We all forget Kim was not, and is not a 'public figure' in the broad sense of the term. She owes you, me and the public no answers - she is seeking answers and action from bodies that have policies that claim they do care and respect for someone in her situation.
Kim can say what she likes. Everybody is holding her to a much higher standard of accountability than any of her detractors.
Braid, it's pretty obvious what Kim is up to isn't it? She is trying to drag this out as long as possible. She knows that the court case will be weeks away, and in the meantime if she can earn up to $80,000 a day in "sympathy money" from other illiterate teenagers and gullible bad parents, then she's going to drag it out as long as possible. Who can blame her. People have even accused me of being payed by her to gather up more sympathy for her.
iCoach, here is my post, verbatim, prior to being altered by you:
iCoach "Frank, the players HAVE said that they have never met her."
Have they? Where?
@Birdwatcher - you say "iCoach and his ilk forget that there are police investigations underway."
Really? Says who? Kim and Hinch? The police and the AFL and the club has not said this. Why do you believe Kim and disbelieve everyone else?
iCoach 2.0 said...People have even accused me of being payed by her to gather up more sympathy for her.
January 8, 2011 7:29 PM
If true it's a cunning strategy LOL
I beg to differ. She firmly thrust herself in to the spotlight, with her facebook, twitter, posting her phone number, the video blogs, all firmly linking her to the being the St Kilda schoolgirl. She took her allegations public. She put herself out there as a public figure. Can't have it both ways.
But back to my point, Birdwatcher. The points she raises are not hers. As I said, she drip feeds "some" info, waits for people to fill in the blanks, then jumps on the good bits and tells the story as if it is hers. She quantifies some theories as the real story and everyone starts to think that some sort of truth is being revealed.
Frank, how did I "alter" your post. I cut and pasted it exactly like you said. Oh, are you complaining that I only pasted part of your post and not your ENTIRE post? How precious you are. I'm so sorry. I'm so glad you're not Kim. If you were, you'd seek revenge and say I raped you no doubt.
braid, please give us a short example of this, if it's possible to do so without breaching the law. I have not noticed what you refer to myself.
I'm also not sure what you are getting at - are you saying that the author of this blog is NOT the person known as 'the St Kilda schoolgirl'?
@Birdwatcher
"withdraw support until clubs and AFL take the relevant policies seriously. Big ask, but why have a policy if you never intent to apply it?"
How would you determine if they are taking policies seriously or applying them? Maybe they could just scrap the policies and R&R program, based on your goal it's about the policies being followed, not the behaviour itself? Do you think bullying through sponsors will bring things to the surface or drive bad behaviour underground?
Kim will have a team of people working with her, there will be a plan and
a guess it'll be designed to try and get the best outcome for Kim...as it should be.
If the "supporters" goals are different from Kim & her teams then what? Does the fight just die? Does the responsibility for change within the AFL really all rest on the shoulders of a 17 year old schoolgirl?
iCoach: My post quoted you. You removed the quote marks and attributed your words to me. Or perhaps you don't know what quotation marks mean?
You still haven't answered the question that everyone keeps asking you - WHY are you so emotional over this? The only possibilities seem to be that you are personally involved or that you are disturbed. Which is it?
I started reading this blog to try and get an understanding of the situation as I really don't know what point the St Kilda School Girl is trying to make.
After reading this blog I'm still no closer to understanding.
The one thing I have learnt is that there are a lot of angry, vicious, judgmental people in cyberspace and that is a sad reflection on us as human beings.
I hope that from all this that someone helps the Small Girl, with the big voice come to terms with whatever it is that is hurting her.
@Frank - FINALLY you are starting to see the truth.
@Frank
An example of what?
No, I am not saying the author of this blog isn't the SKSG. In response to Birdwatcher, who said she isn't a public figure, I said that she is because she put herself in the public spotlight.
@Frank - I had to LOL at your comment about me not knowing what quotation marks are. Obviously you don't know the difference between ' and ". One is a quote and the other is a summary of a quote. You DID know that didn't you? No? Mmm, why am I not surprised. Typical uneducated teenager who think they know everything.
In case you missed it, Kim has now posted another post. This time, her grandma has kicked her out of home. She has no family whatsoever now - and now friends, and no money. Please donate all you can to her fathers bank account. She has posted an email for you to get the account details. This time, she hasn't put a $80 limit on the donation request - so if you can afford more, please do. I know I will be.
iCoach No idea what you are talking about. frankly, if anyone on either side is paying you for this they should ask for their money back.
@Frank
Kim posted a photo for revenge. She didn't say what the revenge was about at the time. Other people jumped on the story, including one Derryn Hinch, you wrote his Connecting the Dots article, among others. He filled in the blanks for her, for things she never said. Since then, she twice made mention that Hinch was doing the right thing, yet she still hadn't substantiated what the revenge was about.
Basically, she sought support on a matter which she hadn't decided on yet. Once she saw the direction it was heading, she jumped on it and finally revealed something specific.
Do you watch John Edwards? Or better yet, do you know how the John Edwards show works?
Braid: An example of this:
"But back to my point, Birdwatcher. The points she raises are not hers. As I said, she drip feeds "some" info, waits for people to fill in the blanks, then jumps on the good bits and tells the story as if it is hers. She quantifies some theories as the real story and everyone starts to think that some sort of truth is being revealed."
Braid - i said not a public figure in the general sense of the term. She has made herself a public figure as a last resort. People who front media campaigns etc are public figures in the general sense of the term.
I know it is a subtle distinction.
Braid - that seems a bit far-fetched. If Hinch's articles are correct (and no-one is contradicting them) there's no issue about whether or not Kim has a valid complaint. When she actually made that complaint public is irrelevant.
A poster named Daniel put this comment up on her latest post where she is AGAIN begging for money.
He said, "You think you are extremely important and relevant...but the truth of the matter is that you are actually, to most who follow, a joke..something to make our day a little more interesting (and not in an admiring way...more an incredulous way). "
Well put sir. I couldn't agree more.
"The players and the club have already said that they have NEVER even met the girl"icoach
Define which players your refering too?
Has the footballer who Kim alleges to have had a relationship issued an official statement? Where is the link?
Kim herself said she had over 100,000 followers.? Where is the link to this? I see 12,500 followers.
"She said that the 1 in a 100 was not even close - and that it was much more?" icoach
Can you provide the link for them..thanks
iCoach lied again: "on her latest post where she is AGAIN begging for money."
No, money is not mentioned in the post.
Why is it that you cannot make your case in a straightforward and honest manner? Distortions and pretty nasty abuse is all you can manage.
Frank, this guy plays on words and twists them because it is a reflection of his mind. He can't back up anything he says and seems to me to have some serious issues.
You can't go to jail for a civil suit, but this guy can if he pushes it. Very disturbing.
Kim, why do you start backing up your claims and allow the doubters to believe. Where you really ever pregnant? I've yet to see any claims from any hospitals to back this up? and why don't you simply state what hotel you took the photos from?
Back up these claims.
You really need to grow up little girl. You may think you are a women but allow me to assure you that you are far far from it.
icoach
Please provide a link to any fake pregnancy?
Please provide the bank account statement or any proof of funds received?
CKA - I'm not quite sure how you expect me to provide a link to something that is "fake". It's like you asking me to prove that it there was not a car accident at a certain intersection yesterday. How can I prove that something DIDN'T happen, pray tell?
Finding Melissa
Can you back up your claims that you have three kids and are overweight and need lapband surgery(are you that overweight to do that?)
What is your full name and kids names? I don't believe your blog is real.
icoach I will ask the question again:
Please provide a link to any fake pregnancy? You have made this statement, you prove it.
Please provide the bank account statement or any proof of funds received? Please provide the actual amount Kim received? You have stated a figure as fact now PROVE IT TO ME.
Icoach just floods the posts with his own vile crap , he doesn't vare about the facts , he just cares about slandering Kim
and yes I think youre right icouch i think your so extremely stupid letting you comment is doing her case a favour
I will keep asking the question. You can't claim something is fake without proof. He has actually made up a $ figure but can't back it up.
All words.......
@Zorro - well done. You have finally figured out why I'm here and who is paying me. It's not always as clear as it might first appear hey? Motives and agendas are usually the best and first place to look. I hope this helps some of you teenagers in the future - and that you won't get strung along next time so easily.
icoach I will ask the question again:
Please provide a link to any fake pregnancy? You have made this statement, you prove it.
Please provide the bank account statement or any proof of funds received? Please provide the actual amount Kim received? You have stated a figure as fact now PROVE IT TO ME.
icoach?
Please provide the bank account statement or any proof of any funds received? Please provide the actual amount Kim received?
Please provide me the receipts that shows the all expenses paid night on the town?
I get no answers....
@ iCoach. Who gives a rats how much money was sent to her. Not like she stuck a gun up anyone's nose, it was given freely.
Why do you keep coming here so determined to keep slandering this girl? It's perfectly obvious you're part of the afl spin team as you have no reason to hate A 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OTHERWISE!!!
What did she ever do to you? that's right! nuthin at all. So everyone knows what you are, a total nobody with no vested interest other than to keep slamming this girl.
Why do you do this? Because you and the afl cannot allow the public to go on her side and not yours.
Fear of public opinion is what drives you lot.
I don't come here to encourage Kim to fight, I come here so she understands not everyone is against her and not everyone believes the crap the afl goes on with.
BULLIES is what you are. And everyone knows it.
Hey Kim,
Could you give us the link to the media quote you are replying to?
Also, if you post links to your sources right from the start it helps filter out a lot of negative/hate comments.
Cheers.
you people need to give kim some room to breathe
stop asking her to answer things you need to hear, clearly none of you have her welbeing at heart , you think it but your so far away its not funny..why should she answer anything to you ? after all you would all sit back and watch her go down with things your telling her to do..good thing is, she isnt a simple little girl and whats the bet she has grown alot now..seriously you people need to stop bitchin and telling her you will help her..did all you helpers go to training today ? nahhh didnt think so , you just sit there and whynd her up till she does something silly..clearly not helping !!
We are all forgetting one MAJOR important thing!!! BULLYING!! Every1 has an opinion but no one is thinking about this situation!! Kim may have done some wrong, but she is still young & has a lot to learn. And the AFL is taking advantage of her age. She is at an age where she is moulding into the woman she is going to be, she is coming of age!! Whatever happened everyone needs to shut up, stop bullying & bombarding her!! She is at an extremely vulnerable age, & she may not be consciously thinking about it, but it doesn't take much for a teen girl to snap & she may do something stupid to herself. The highest killer in women is suicide and I have seen it many time, girls happy & fine one min & not long later, they've taken they're life as they have just had ENOUGH!! BACK OFF leave her alone! She has enough to deal with without everyone having a go or telling her what to do. Just STOP!!! ALL OF YOU! Let the officials take care of it, stop bitching & just let these 2 parties deal with how ever they want! As who knows what will happen! Kim is in a fragile state & ppl can be pushed over the edge in a matter of seconds, & u will all realis YOU contributed to it if she does get totally fed up & take things more seriously in regards to own safety. Just SHUT ur mouths & leave it ALONE!!!! Or u might have a guilty concience forever!!! Let her be!!!!!!!
@ Kate. I totally agree.
I don't ask questions I only write to support and let her know that the likes of icoach, braid mumof4 (who would be better off minding her own kids!!) and their rhetoric are just vermin!
On and on an on they go every day, with their spiteful rubbish. You have to wonder why!
What's in it for them and why are they doing it.
What pathetic no-lifes they must be!
Take care Kim. x0x0x
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