Hi All.
Once again, I'm in a strife!
I've been told I can move into a new house that's been arranged by the police on Wednesday, or the latest on Friday. So, that's exciting for me!
Here's the problem:
I've been staying at my nan's house for the past few days, loving the quiet life.
But, recently - WHO magazine was published, and let's just say, there was something published in it which I didn't want to be printed. "Her mother suffers from Bipolar Disorder".
And with those 6 words, I was told to leave my grandmothers.
So, now; Once again, I am stuck with a massive duffel bag - Full of clothes, make-up, chargers, etc.
The same bag from the airport, which weighed 22kg's to be exact.
So, with many things to do and people to see today, I am forced to carry around this bag, drop it every 50metres for a break and try and answer calls in between. I can tell you now, It hasn't been the best day!
Mind you, on top of that, I'm trying to find somewhere to stay tonight, as now -
-My entire family has pushed me away.
-Most of my friends are interstate.
And the main factor is: Even if I am offered a place by friends, once their parents know it's me who is staying, "There isn't enough room, sorry!"
That's what I really hate, is when people judge me for what they read and from what they hear.
It's quite pathetic actually, but I can't even begin to imagine how long it would take me to explain my story to each individual, and even still there's a chance no-one will believe it.
That's the thing with first impressions and reputations, they can be tattered so easily, one split second is all it takes, one comment, one photo. But, that's life.
I realise who my true friends are.
In a sense, I feel as though I no longer have a family.
Which saddens me.
I thought blood was thicker than water?
Much love,
Kim. x x
416 comments:
1 – 200 of 416 Newer› Newest»You still wonder why people have pushed you away? Maybe because you went about this the wrong way? If there is truth to the things you have said there are other avenues, which are far better than posting images of 3 innocent football players whom you have never met.
If you're still whinging about having to answer phones and carry 'so many chargers' it sounds like you're just lapping up the media attention... Thousands are wondering why you don't switch them off, as that's what any normal person would do.
PS. If you don't want people to find out about particular things (aka the bipolar), I suggest keeping your trap shut...
People are judging you on the way you have behaved. You need to realise that. You embarrassed innocent people, you threatened to embarrass more, you lied repeatedly about how you acquired the photos. A day after you get out of hospital and being cared for by a nice lady, you're off to fight some teens who said something nasty about you. You are seeking attention, with the blogs, the phone calls (why do you even need three phones?) and the half-stories you are telling.
woah! take an overseas trip for a week to refresh maybe?
-tork
http://torkona.blogspot.com
I'm starting to worry about you. Please be careful with what you post about where you are and what you're doing and how vulnerable you are.
If the St Kilda girl ended up in a nasty accident, they would simply point to these posts which say that you're lost and wandering and drinking and hospitalised.
the AFL is just one of the big boys clubs that run this country, the footy players, the cops, the courts, the churches, will all close ranks and look after themselves.
The AFL the Catholic Church it's all the same.
If the St Kilda girl falls of a cliff, even if someone pushes her, she will be ultimately discredited, and the boys can go back to hanging out naked with each other.
I'd be happy to talk with you about what options are open to you while you're doing it hard :)
but please don't advertise that you're vulnerable. the predators will salivate and rub their hands...
You think you are extremely important and relevant...but the truth of the matter is that you are actually, to most who follow, a joke..something to make our day a little more interesting (and not in an admiring way...more an incredulous way).
Oh..and please...don't bother asking anyone for money.
Family is family, they should stick by you no matter what.
There's people in a lot worse situations who still have family by them, you shouldn't have to go through it alone.
Re bag, go to a Salvo's or something and get a suitcase or bag with wheels. I'm sure someone can help out there. If you think you'll be doing a lot of moving around, you might want to downsize what you take with you so it's not so heavy.
Are you kidding me ? $80,000 ?!?
If I received $80,000 I wouldn't be in Australia, I did even get close to $1,000 not even $500, please stop making things up iCoach.
I'm going to report you to the police.
I think the police should get involved and track those down for cyberbullying.
iCoach - you have no stones
ICoach 2.0 I don't know why you bother either I do hope you really meant that you've said goodbye.
icoach I don't think you know how serious a crime it is to stalk and cyberbully. YOUR family will be exposed to the media. Think about your posts and your lies.
It's a hate crime.
iCoach lied again: "In another thread on this blog, it is reported that she got almost $80,000"
No, you made this claim and refused to give any source for the "reports", except your own guesses. Please stop posting distortions and untruths.
I actually get the feeling this icoach is going to hurt this poor girl.
Kim, I am following your twitter but don't know if you get my messages. Do you need some financial help?
Blood is meant to be thicker than water, however, it never seems to work out like that.
Good luck, I hope you find somewhere to stay. And stay strong okay? Some people like to cause fights on the Internet for the hell of it. I amuse myself by wondering what they're actually like in real life.
xx
Frank he hasn't got any sources. He is obviously unbalanced and I believe from his tone I believe a serious threat to this girl.
Blame the horrible media who seem to bend over backwards to protect the AFL. They seem to have done it to you by making you out to be the baddy here when that is not the case.
I actually want to help out until she gets lodgings. I have family that have treated me the same for no reason. I get it.
lol, iCoach said it once, he can then refer to it as a report. He saw it online, it must be true.
@iCoach
We've already given you examples of money being offered and she did even respond. She really sucks at scamming.
iCoach is representative of the hatred towards women like Kim.
This debate has aroused the unstoppable passions of those who believe men should be able to use women how they like, and dispose of them at whim.
I'm worried that someone will hurt Kim as we read about women being killed every week for getting into arguments with men, only it happens at home more.
But iCoach is just another yobbo who poses naked with his friends and is horrified that some girl would publish photos like this and expose boys like him or his idols, his high priests, the footy players.
@ Icoach... Ah clearly not in the time I took to log in so I could post you've been back at your attempts to harrangue and harass I see. Stop asserting things have been "reported" when you reiterate your own bile and you may regain your lost credibilty - better yet reveal who you are!
icoach you need to seek help. Really you seem disturbed. Take a break and go for a walk.
Oh dear, now the David Jones chick gets it as well. Serious issues with women this one....
I think it's hilarious that iCoach comes up with the following
* She is stupid
* She is disowned by her father
* She managed to get 80k of money into an account who he reports is owned by her father.
So putting those three things together, lets look logically at how this might work:
She's stupid enough to get money put into (and then get taken out of) an account - an account that's not only not in her name, but the owner of which wants nothing to do with her...
Just re-read that last paragraph iCoach, a few times. Now go read it once more.
Still going to stick with the story?
Has anybody taken a moment to think of a young woman who lost twins last year?
Any other woman would get a channel 9 special and home renovations.
But this one stood up and spoke out.
She is now the subject of a witch hunt, instead of being supported as a mother who lost babies.
So sad.
I wish i could be like iCoach. His brothers must be so proud of him.
@CKA - I'm so sorry that you had a similar experience with your own family. And for "no reason". That sucks. Families disowning their own children/sisters etc for "no reason" just sux big time. If only there was a "reason" you could perhaps justify it. My thoughts are with you. Do you want money?
CKA: "He is obviously unbalanced and I believe from his tone I believe a serious threat to this girl."
I'm sure he'd LIKE to be a serious threat, but anyone who has spent much time in online forums recognises the type (mainly late-developing 15-year-old boys and asocialised men in their 20s) and knows to not take them seriously. I hope Kim understands that.
Tanya, precisely what gets missed in all this discourse. I know women who have not gotten over a miscarriage/stillbirth for decades. Compassion anyone?
Psychiatric Wards have beds...there you will be safe and secure and get the help you need. Get off twitter - get off blogging and get professional help.
@Frank - try a 60-something woman. I know what you will now say, so don't even bother.
iCoach, you're not doing yourself any favours by taunting and tearing a young woman to shreds. She may not be perfect but you're acting like she murdered someone.
Calm down, its quite clear you're only here to satisfy your ego and to see her fail.
CKA: "Oh dear, now the David Jones chick gets it as well. Serious issues with women this one...."
Yes, although that was obvious from the moment he started throwing "slut" around. But as usual, he got his facts wrong. The woman in the DJ case settled for a great deal less than $64m.
Good point Anna. Karma is a wonderful thing. I forget that sometimes. Thanks for the heads-up. God Bless.
Kim's $80,000 windfall was first reported about a week ago by the very thorough investigative reporter Mr I Coach. The information was posted on the internet and as we all aware if it's on the internet it must be true.
@Blackmask - not everything on the internet is true. Seriously, you need to only believe stuff from legitimate sources. I hope that both helps AND informs you.
Which AFL team does icoach play for?
I honestly do worry about you kids who are just starting out in life, and to hear someone like Blackmask who says 'I read it on the internet so it MUST be true' just makes me shake my head. Look, I'm not having a go at Blackmask, I am simply using him as an example. Things are not always true just because they are on the internet. Anyone can put stuff there. You probably don't understand because you are too young and not yet fully educated, but you just need to trust us adults on these things. OK? I hope you listen to this. THanks for your time.
Fred, I don't play for any AFL team. In fact, I don't even follow the sport because I think soccer is a sport for homosexuals (and by looking at the photos Kim stole, my suspicions are correct). But that aside, why would you jump to the conclusion that I am an AFL player?
@birdwatcher. When I miscarried (5 months along) I went to work the next day and continued until 25 days later when I broke down and creid no stop. Grief hits us in different ways as does shock.
And I never have forgotten the day I lost my baby.
I hope you get everything sorted soon... no 17yr old girl should be homeless no matter what the cicumstances are.
Good luck with everything and keep fighting xx
Well going by icoach's math, if he exagerated the DJ amount $64,000,000/850,000 = 75 ratio (ie fiction / reality). Thus he exagerates $75 for $1 real dollar in the real world.
Thus he estimates Kim got $80,000/ ratio of 75=$1066 the true figure he should quote.
Maths for the mental.
You don't like homosexuals either, iCoach? maybe you could tell us more about your philosophy of life.
(Ignoring the AFL-soccer bizzo)
bianca what a compasionate thing to say. Restore my faith in this world somewhat.
Well I have deduced from many pages of ramblings 1coach;
1. Can't add up
2..Has an issue with women(ie sluts)
3. Has an issue with homosexuals
4. Has no idea(yeah right) about AFL and Soccor.
If we replace the word "AFL" with "Church" there would be a different reaction to a woman who was used by players, disowned when it got difficult and was being portrayed as the predator. Now, she's homeless, and isolated and a scarlet woman.
Are we still in the Middle Ages?
Yeah it was nothing.(cough) Do you have children?
Tanya it would seem fanaticism has no bounds.
can we find out who iCoach is?
He is clearly a puritanical religious nut...and i would be willing to bet that he is some kind of abuser as well:
that guy at work that creeps you out
or that poofter basher that hides behind trees
or just your regular woman basher or rapist
clearly frightned by his deep love for other men
...my sympathies CKA...i can only imagine your pain..i'm here for kim all the way too...
I never said it was "nothing" CKA. You said that - not me. I said it wasn't a "baby". How about sticking to the facts and not sensationalizing everything like Kim does.
if iCoach really is a 60-year-old woman it all becomes a bit sad. I don't feel like playing any more.
The DJ's chick wanted $36 mill out of court settlement for about 800- $900,00. what I found funny was she was going to set up a charity with the money, thn when the pay day arrived.... Nothing.... No charity to speak of.
I think there are more important issues out there, but this is a great read to have a laugh.
If you need money goto Centrelink or get a job, if you need help with a resume they can help with that too. Centrelink also can help you with rent. If you have no where to go the commission homes on Brunswick street might be the go.
As someone else said turn off your phone/s for like a day so you can get shit done. If not just keep plugging away as this is a great read for someone that normally does not read.
@Tanya - just because someone has a slightly different opinion to you doesn't automatically make them a rapist, a poofter basher, a paedophile, a wife basher, and every other name under the sun you just labeled me. If you can't handle sensible and honest debate, perhaps the internet isn't the right place for you. Perhaps there is a kitchen somewhere where you can be more productful.
@icoach, i'm not very productful in the kitchen, which mean i guess that i'm worse than a slut to you...
the way you objectify people and their situations is enough for any first year psych student to notice you're a dangerous person.
never called you a pedophile.
but how dare you tell other people what a baby is and isn't?
it's exactly people like you who protect the boys clubs and let them keep operating.
there's something in this that you're defending and it's not the AFL or the right of the public not to be lied to by teenagers.
This has upset you on a personal level and you can't hide it. Girls like Kim terrify you.
Good. Be afraid. We have power too.
@Frank - why is it a bit sad? BTW, I'm not 60, I'm 60-ish. Er, middle to late in fact. But why is that sad? Don't you think I have a right to an opinion? Am I too old? I'd be interested in your thoughts on this as I have always tried (and struggled) with the youth of today - but this Kim thing is just beyond ridiculous.
@iCoach 2.0
Tell us more about how you feel about the gays and women. I'm both intrigued and baffled my your amazing insights.
http://somedaywewillsleep.com/astroturfing-dickileaks-and-why-perception-is-the-key-to-good-pr/
icoach is an astroturfer. I get it now....
I'm not 60, I'm 60-ish. Er, middle to late in fact.
I don't mean to sound like a smart arse(honestly) but have you been assessed for Frontal Lobe Dementia?
Tanya, once again, I never called you a slut - never even hinted on it. I treated you with respect and simply responded to your post where you attacked me by calling me a rapist and a woman basher simply because I had a different opinion to you about something. I've never been mean or dis-respectful to you, because I don't know you, and it's not in my nature. I don't know why you have labeled me as a rapist and a woman basher (and much worse) when you don't know me.
Stop replying to ICouch - you are just encouraging the idiot!
@CKA that is fascinating. That's why the comments on soccer and wrong figures and stuff. Wow. thanks for sharing..
CKA, no, I have never been assessed for FLD. Do you think I should be tested? Do you agree with Tanya who accuses me of being a rapist and a woman basher just because she doesn't agree with my comments? I'm just trying to assess the mood here.
OMG, iCoach is upset and has hurt feelings, everyone. It's ok for iCoach to say 'that's not a baby' or 'i hope she doesn't commit suicide before she gets what's coming to her" but now i made iCoach offended and sad.
Ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Imagine how it feels to be a 17 year old homeless girl, instead of an arrogant 60 something.
oh not that would require empathy, which iCoach wants applied but not to kim supporters.
ha ha.
No one is calling you anything. I just know alot about FLD and concerned for your health.
I would also like you to provide links to your statements.
@Crawford - welcome to the group. Your very first post is dictating to others to NOT to post replies to someone else who has been here much longer than you. Well done. Here's a hint for you Crawford - we live in a democracy, and we are allowed to say what we think. I know that it is confusing where people like Tanya label me as a rapist and a paedophile and a woman basher just because I didn't agree with her comment, but hey, that's life. But we still have the right to our own opinions - despite how much that makes you feel sick. If you can't handle that Crawford, perhaps you should go back to the tv and watch Dora the Explorer. OK? Are we cool now?
Tanya, how did you come to the conclusion that you have upset me, pray tell? OMG, you think that calling me a paedophile, rapist and woman basher hurts me? LOL. Not in this lifetime girlie. If you think that calling me names from an anonymous email account is getting to me, then clearly you have never had ANY issues in your life. Grow up girlie.
Girlie, hahahahahaha. I rest my case.
but my life is changed by the astroturfing link..
iCoach, this isn't a group, its the comments section of Kim's blog. Everyone is still waiting for your evidence and links. I am still waiting for you to drop your anonymity. Don't deride others for the same methods you use. You are a coward. I continue to wait.
and the ICouch ramblings continue - ho hum....
Now back to topic - Kim. Does anyone know what she is intending on doing as per her tweets?
I note Tanya, that you refused to answer my question about why you label me a rapist and a woman basher just because I disagree with one of your posts.
At some point most familys break up and you have to stand on your own feet and deal with matters life throws at you.even the shit family gives you ..some are just bullies that cant come to terms that your no longer a child..some just shouldnt have kidds..some cant comment on anything without trying to bring you down to there level and some so called freinds are the same as above..kim i am no fool , i know what goes on in sporting clubs , familys , frendships , marrage and life..honestly these so called friends posting shit just want the news to tell there mates , you dont need them..bewere of the wolfs in sheep clothing..thought i would remind you..be well little lady :)
"I've been staying at my nan's house for the past few days, loving the quiet life."
You went on the town on NYE
You have been at Flinders St Station going after 13 year old
Lunch and media interviews with WHO/Hinch and whomever else will listen to your garbage.
Planning on Protesting AFL Training
Yeah...very much the quiet life.
You are full of it. It is sickening.
hahaha you're all falling for iCoach's trolling.
Stop responding to him and he'll have to go back to gorging on Doritos in his parents basement and crying about his terrible life.
is iCoach Sam Newman? Isn't he 60-ish?
iCoach, here's your final bit of my attention, since you do seem to be deliberately distorting things.
i have not labelled you anything. i have suggested that the attitudes you display are the same as those of the AFL, only you are not one of them. however you support their misogyny by your objectifying women in the same way.
bye bye iCoach. I hope your sleep is disturbed by the idea that women like Kim can expose men like you in one post. The days of the cover up are almost over.
ICoach.....Do a little Googling on Tanya. You'll find she has quite a lot in common with young Kim.
@iCoach 2.0 big mouths usually have little penis with hang ups relating to its smaller than norm size. now that you state you are past mid 60's ( grumpy old man syndrome )
Do you have a decrease in libido (sex drive)?
* Do you have a lack of energy?
* Do you have a decrease in strength and/or endurance?
* Have you lost height?
* Have you noticed a decreased "enjoyment of life"?
* Are you sad and/or grumpy?
* Are your erections less strong?
* Have you noted a recent deterioration in your ability to play sports?
* Are you falling asleep after dinner?
* Has there been a recent deterioration in your work performance?
In addition to these questions, can you identify with any of the following symptoms?
A sense of being burned out, increased depression, increased irritability, increased anxiety, more nervousness, more joint complaints, increased sweating, a need for more sleep, more sleep disturbances, muscular weakness, physical exhaustion, impaired sexual potency, fewer morning erections, disturbed libido and decreased beard growth.
i bet most of the above !!!
@phantom...i never had the courage this girl had at 17. and maybe that's why i'm still alive. i'm scared for kim.
Tanya, I agree. Kim is only 17. She is getting herself into hot water. Into danger due to the nutters out there that will take advantage. But who is going to step up to the plate and help this girl??
I think the organisation you took on were far far scarier than the AFL. I also think you're motives were far nobler than Kim's #justsayin
I suggest you watch "Sybil" Kim.....take some hints.
are you guys saying tanya has no cred?
@Tanya Levin have you any plans for a future novel on this subject? if yes, if you had legal right to name names in a story simular to this would you hestitate to write a true story?
@sooty - just a small tip for you. 60-something old women do not have penises - small or otherwise. If you think that is somehow going to hurt me, then try again. Maybe you should go down Tanya Levin's path and call me a rapist and woman basher instead. I hope that both helps AND informs. (it must be embarrassing being your age and still thinking women have penises)
Oh! I think I've worked it out iCoach=Strauchnie
iCoach's persona, vocabulary and style have changed dramatically. Commpare his/her posts lately with those on the previous blog entry. I wonder if someone else at the astroturfing company has come on shift?
Thank you Phantom. There are people who would argue that like Kim i'm just a disgruntled ex-employee. but i was in my 30's when i wrote. and my body wasn't recovering from miscarriages.
as sinead o'connor said in emperor's new clothes, "how could i possibly know what i want when i was only 21?" most girls kim's age are worrying about what to wear to the formal while she's trying to stay safe.
at some point, her motives become irrelevant as the information and debate she provokes are important on their own.
The Birdwatcher said... "are you guys saying tanya has no cred?"
Well birdman, what do you think? SHe accused me of being a rapist and a woman basher just because I disagreed with one of her posts. Does that ring any bells for you?
And so far, she has refused to back down from her claim that I'm a rapist etc. But she will.
@iCoach 2.0 the majority had spoken... you're a sad sad individual. But we all know why you post what you post - cos you love attention. Narcasistic tool is what you are. So youre in you're 60's?! Based o. Your moronic posts I thought you were about 15. I skip over your posts now. They bore me.
ICouch - we got the hint already!!!! you don't like Tanya's comments. We get it! Go open a separate blog about it - you can sit and abuse yourself for fun....
I am more worried that Kim will be sleeping in streets tonight...and no - I do not agree with her actions - she is a fool - but who is her guardian?
I have recently ordered Tanya's book from the library. I have no opinion on Tanya's credibility. I simply believe Tanya's past experience is relevant to this debate.
Although I am not here to demonize Kim, I do get the feeling that due to her personal experience, she is probably not looking as objectively at Kim's behavior as she should be!
Here's the thing:
Truth is a defense in Australia for defamation.
So if these things took place, they can be published, particularly if they are in the public interest with no fear of lawsuits.
The reason those footy boys quiver so much is there is so much more that they are hiding.
I'd love to work with Kim on this one...i'm so amazed she has kept up her courage and strength...despite so much hatred and opposition. I think she has an amazing future as an advocate for so many.
she is one of my personal heroes.
iCoach 2.0 well you carry on like a transvestite.
you cranky old biatch, lets just hope no young female relative of yours in the future is put in the same situation. karma has a great way of evening things up
this shit is creepin me out ..i hope you know its gotta be creepin kim out too..i realy hope your not from any church looking for a young lady to brainwash..be careful kim !!! "its soooo creepy" all the FB pages and coments
Kim I think they have done enough to publish the photos and be damned . Im happy to publish the photo's for you . Like seriously these guys really need to be taught a lesson, they need to shamed like they are trying to shame you.
Hi Luke. I'm surprised that you go to all the trouble of personally writing to me to tell me that you are skipping over my posts. Can you not see the irony in all that? You probably are too young to even know what the word irony means. I don't blame you - I blame the education system. God Bless.
tanya: "at some point, her motives become irrelevant as the information and debate she provokes are important on their own."
Yep, and that's why Kim personally is in a much stronger position than creeps like iCoach want her to believe.
Derryn Hinch is here to save the day! From his Twitter;
"The warm fuzzy stories continue about homeless radio voice Ted Williams. Still nobody touching his long criminal record."
Seriously, Derryn? You're that interested in making a name for yourself that you'll bring up an entirely irrelevant detail about someone who just got their life back in order? Or is it really relevant, in which case we can dismiss your entire media career, because you too have a criminal record?
Be warned, Kim, this man doesn't have your interest in mind. He has his own.
icoach I will ask the question again:
Please provide a link to any fake pregnancy? You have made this statement, you prove it.
Please provide the bank account statement or any proof of funds received? Please provide the actual amount Kim received? You have stated a figure as fact now PROVE IT TO ME.
Please provide me the receipts that shows the all expenses paid night on the town? Please rpovide me with the receipts to the limo and hotel? Please scan the prrof and post online.
Thanks for the link to Tanya's blog sooty. I think that she might have just blown any credibility she might ever have had be calling me a rapist and a woman basher today - just because I disagreed with one little comment she made. Fortunately I've screen-shot the comment - so that any media outlet can access it into the future. Her true colour certainly came out today. How DARE she label me as a rapist just because she doesn't agree with my opinion. All I asked from her was an apology, but she refused.
icoach I will ask the question again:
Please provide a link to any fake pregnancy?
Please provide the bank account statement or any proof of any funds received? Please provide the actual amount Kim received?
Please provide me the receipts that shows the all expenses paid night on the town?
@iCoach -- LMFAO!!!! YOU are a 60-ish woman?!?! Thanks for the lolz sweetie!!
iCoach is the first 60-ish woman in history to use the phrase "hypocrisy much?"... Take a bow there Ethel... LOL
I have met a few puritanical 60-ish women, and more than a few 20-something sexually-frustrated men... and iCoach is astonishingly similar to the latter.
I am sure iCoach is an intelligent yet socially awkward young male, who is filled with bitterness toward the women he wishes he could sleep with (like Kim), and apparently also threatened by the forward sexuality of gays.
Give it up iCoach -- Kim is not perfect, and her conduct has not been perfect, but she does not deserve the HATE.
Once you start to respect women, and yourself, women will be able to respect (and maybe date... and sleep with!) you. And you'll be happier.
Oh and PS -- your utterly revolting comment about it "not being a baby" shows you have NO understanding of women: NONE. No woman could EVER think like that.
And BTW I am only addressing the iCoach issue because Kim seems to read these posts... @Kim be strong and smart Kim... lots of haters out there, but lots of supporters and even more people who wish you well xx
Tanya you never stated anything of the kind... "i would be willing to bet " is safe legal jargon. Actually I'll take you up on your bet!
My words have been twisted also. Wouldn't worry.
and Darren tweets in reply to someone tweeting that kim is doing a radio interview
@mellisme I think she's foolish to do it at this stage.
yep cos darren wants the exclusive himself.
@Braid
WEll done its about time people started telling her to "watch out" and yes his one to watch out for like any media person trying to make money and a name for themself at her expence..bussines is a harsh/cruel world..
"All I asked from her was an apology, but she refused"
I suggest you write to the AFL.
Tanya Levin is it possible to contact you by e-mail
You're all fucking certifiable...
thanks CKA, it's sad if icoach is an older woman, i believe she must have been through similar experiences to Kim and thus is horrified that she was sent off to an aunt's farm to have her baby or sent to an asylum, for example.
if icoach isn't a 17 year old boy drinking on a sunday afternoon, calling kim a slut cos she hasn't slept with HIM. ha.
drop us a line on tanyaelizabethlevin@gmail.com if you like..
let's get some real support going for Kim.
i'll go to jail for posting her photos.
Derryn would have too in the old days.
Whistleblowers have a hard time in this rum colony we live in. I don't have money like CKA to help but I got a mouth that won't quit :)
iCoach lied again: " 'sex parties' with taxi drivers. How quickly people forget."
In fact that relates to a claim made by you, no other source. You're digging yourself a bit deep here.
@Sarah - I don't agree with much of what you say, but I respect your right to say it - unlike others like Tanya who label me a rapist for not agreeing with them. HOWEVER, I do agree with ONE thing you say. Your comment toward the end of your long post where you said the fetus "not being a baby" is true, and I congratulate you on your strength to say this in this sort of forum where people are so quick to attack others. Well done Sarah.
iCoach - you doth protest too much concerning Tanya's comment...starting to wonder now! you have mentioned it 11 times now...we have all moved on.
You also said "goodbye" at the end of your first comment on this blog...if we say goodbye back will you actually finally go????
oh and ps everyone thought that i would get concrete shoes for dobbing on hillsong.
but those with the most to hide will say the least. the afl are the biggest bunch of girls out.
i'm sick of footy players raping and abusing and using and disposing of human beings.
let's go. let's do it.
and anyone else who wants to write to me can too, hey sooty...
i'll put my face to her campaign. poor girl can't even put her own face to it.
anyone else?
It comes as no suprise that all media has dropped the Kim story like a hot turd everyone other than you people seem to get it. May i suggest you all go back to to when it started read the stories properly listen to all the news roports and interviews that she has done and you will find that she is so full of shit that she has buried herself in so many untruths that she can no longer be portrayed as a victim. You misguided sympathisers on Facebook and twitter are the only ones listening and reading to her rantings. The rest of us got over it long ago.
Bit like having a big poo it doesnt take long for the smell to fade :-)
@Tanya - care to explain why you claim I am a rapist? Let's just clear this up hey?
icoach I will ask the question again:
Please provide a link to any fake pregnancy?
Please provide the bank account statement or any proof of any funds received? Please provide the actual amount Kim received?
Please provide me the receipts that shows the all expenses paid night on the town?
Please name the taxi drivers involved with Kim as you allege?
yes im in ...lets put more pix on the net of people none of us have met or done anything wrong by us...just to get the point across..just so you can have a laugh and get a name..."FOOL"
Just to clarify, a baby, at 5 months gestation, is still a baby - and if born has a chance to survive.
eg.
http://www.parentdish.com/2009/06/29/baby-born-at-23-weeks-doing-well-six-months-later/
Don't worry about Tanya's bet answer these questions:
Please provide a link to any fake pregnancy?
Please provide the bank account statement or any proof of any funds received? Please provide the actual amount Kim received?
Please provide me the receipts that shows the all expenses paid night on the town?
tanya levin...i totally agree, i sent you a e-mail, much appreciated
mumstrosity he is just trying to get a rise out of all the women.
CKA, let's get this straight. You think it is more important for me to give you a definition of what I think the word "slut" means, than for you to have issues with Tanya Levin to describe me as a "rapist" and a woman basher and a paedophile (although I notice she has since deleted that particular comment - you have to wonder why she thinks paedophilia is bad, but rape is acceptable).
But you said you copy pasted her comments?
Paste it on here?
Also answer my questions?
Tanya would "love to work with Kim" will you be doing this pro bono as you are so worried about her? Sniff sniff sniff I can smell a rat.... All profits to Kim? Or are you just chasing your next pay cheque....
@voiceofTreason - I think people are finally seeing Tanya's true colors. What sort of woman labels a late 60 year old woman as a "rapist", a "woman basher" just because she disagrees with her. Tanya needs a new vocabulary if that's all she's got.
If Kim had been 15 this would all be a different story. It would a crime. Now, it's just a story about power abuse.
i don't see why people are so horrified by the idea of anyone making money out of this.
The AFL boys are using all their cash to defend themselves. Money is what's talking here.
Which is why Kim's posting photos. She doesn't have a team of lawyers and a corporate defense.
going to work. so don't take my lack of response as anything other than employment requirements.
Braid: "Be warned, Kim, this man [Hinch] doesn't have your interest in mind. He has his own."
You mentioned Hinch's criminal record - it related to outing paedophiles. He is a tabloid journo, I agree, but on some issues, especially child protection, he has shown courage and tenacity. I wouldn't be surprised if it's for child-protection reasons that he's running with Kim's story. He also has terminal cancer, so I doubt that his career is his prime motive.
Tanya power to you!!!!
ICoach - that's what? - 13 times you have mentioned the so called rapist comment....does it bother you so much cause it is true???? its getting boring and clogging this blog up...
Please try to keep to subject. Concentrate.
thats what they want..money fame and the story to tell...back the fuck up people get a life and worrie about whats yours..kim has help out there ..god help her if anyone on face book or this blog gets the gig lmao..sure people feel sorry for her but please get a grip !
Tanya if she was 15 years old do you think the attacks would still be as nasty?
What a difference one year makes hey?
"Kim has help out there"
who? her blog indicates otherwise...
Insert Name Here, I'm not sure what your point is. Are you complaining that people are making posts on the internet about a high-profile situation? If so, that's a battle you have lost!
Does Kim have the option to block ICoach on commenting?
its gone past a situation between Kim and the AFL, its a class war now, the St Kilda rapist club against the some people with pretty stuff back, big mouths and no fear
release the pictures Kim lets take this all the way . I will do it for you and take the heat , fuck these assholes. St Kilda cant sue everyone!
I think it's somewhat broader than class war, and describing it as class war isn't helpful.
icoach...we all have your posts too.
Please copy and past here the alleged slander you refer to with "I have the screen-shots to prove it"
Don't worry about Tanya's bet answer these questions:
Please provide a link to any fake pregnancy?
Please provide the bank account statement or any proof of any funds received? Please provide the actual amount Kim received?
Please provide me the receipts that shows the all expenses paid night on the town?
@Crawford - you never answer my questions, yet you seem intent on asking me some.
Why do you think Kim should "delete" all my posts? Does the truth hurt? Why do you not demand that Tanya's posts be deleted where she accuses me of being a rapist, a woman basher, and more recently, a paedophile, gay and a murderer (which funnily enough she has deleted). Isn't it amazing that she seems to thing that being gay is worse than being a rapist? That says more about her than me.
@zero :-) she hasnt got anymore pics dont you get it.
im not fighting any battle or taking a side and im not going there with you or any other so called "white knight" that thinks kim should get there help just cause they have a intrest in this case...read who magazine points across now looks like kim is winning without all you people lost in cyberspace...but as an EX saints man ill be following the suns next year..ill add ,thats through kims story not anything any of you have said/done...nite people im off to my real life , with real friends whos word i dont take with a grain of solt..be well little lady kim..go suns ;)
@zorro
well said ...i rest my case ;)
iCouch - once again you have turned the subject to this blog about you. Not Kim.
Ho Hum....this blog is off subject and boring now. Think I might go outside get some sunshine with friends - ICouch - you sit in your mums basement and continue to ego blog....
I have no idea who the "suns" are, but I assume they are another soccer club like St Kilda. All soccer clubs around the world are known to be inundated with gay men - I don't know why people in Australia are do surprised. This isnt' anything new. Just look at the way they hug each other after the occasional goal. How gullible are you teenagers?
it needs to be made broader, the ALF need to be given a much bigger problem to solve. Young woman have been subject to a conspiracy between police and the AFL ....who have been collaborating to limit criminal charges against football players. The police and the AFL are consorting against woman.
The AFL players need to be banned fromn schools everywhere. While they hold the view that young woman are fair game as long as they are over 16 years old then the players have no business entering schools in order groom young woman .
Schools should be teaching young woman about the dangers of these predatory footballers.
A complete independent investigation needs to take place into all the police investigations. There are allegations form investigating officers about pressure being placed on them by senior police to 'back of investigating players for the most serious crimes against woman we can imagine. Other officers have targeted the victims for sexual assault themselves.
If I could make a suggestion. There are serious allegations and issues that need to be discussed, spending time trying to argue with Astroturfers like Icoach distracts those who care about these issues from the main task at hand.
If we ignore him we can get on with the job of taking St Kilda to task. St Kilda are full of hot air , the yare clearly petrified of what might come out . lets get this stuff out there and use it to drive reform. many of us here are older and we dont give a flying fuck about the AFLs lawyers or even the courts . Reform will only happen when people get angry enough to demand it.
@Crawford - that's what most people do when they realise they have backed the wrong horse. I don't blame you. Don't be embarrassed. It's ok.
@Zorro, if I am so EVIL, how come you don't reply to my emails etc?
Zorro great comment.
@iCoach -- I think you'd cop much less of a hammering here if you made your criticisms of Kim without the invective.
She's made some bad choices and hurt some people (intentionally and unintentionally) [sorry Kim... has to be said!], but she's still just a little girl [sorry Kim -- it's not meant to sound patronising!] who is being swept up in a frenzy that is taking on a life of its own.
Just a little girl... that'll come up again...
I think objectively, you can accept the possibility that there was a relationship between Kim and an AFL player, and that it is also highly likely that there was a pregnancy which ended. She's just a little girl and she's had to cope with that, even if she contributed to the situation. My close friend -- in a loving relationship with a wonderful husband and the support of both her family and his -- lost a baby (yes, technically a fetus, but that's not how any woman views it) at 4 months, at the age of 26, AND. WAS. DEVASTATED. Can you even begin to imagine how Kim -- with no support -- would have had to deal with this?? Neither can I.
There is also little doubt that the AFL and the players in question are covering up their mistakes (who wouldn't?). They made mistakes too, and they probably didn't treat Kim well initially. But she doesn't deserve the way they are treating her, and yes, those three innocent players didn't deserve to have their privacy invaded.
I'm sure the AFL would handle this differently if they had their time again. I think Kim would handle this differently if she had her time again.
I believe the technical term for this situation is "clusterf*ck" -- lots of things going wrong, creating a firestorm.
Someone -- maybe Derryn, maybe VicPol (which has definitely been compromised through the AFL sweetheart deal) -- needs to sit them in a room, knock their heads together, and get this sorted so that this little girl can get back to her life and family.
This isn't a fight between 100% good and 100% evil... just kids (the AFL players aren't *that* much older than Kim) making poor choices and an oversized, hyper-vigilante corporation looking after its investments. Perfect ingredients for a rather large clusterf*ck.
"claps his hands" .. yes they shouldnt be in any school at all , ive said that from day one when this happend..finaly a good comment ..now im off..nite
I agree CKA. why doesn't she comment?
@sarah Well said. These comments are what people I know are saying. No they don't post on blogs but they are saying it.
Once again, Sarah has said stuff that is very true and sensible. Thanks Sarah.
Sarah, I have read you post over and over. You make sense. You need to be part of either the afl, or Kim's publicity machine.
I find it really sad that there's so many comments yet so little real offers of help.
Haven't you ever been 17? It's shit.
Kim,I cant offer you much.I can't send you any money though I would if I could because I would feel better knowing your somewhere safe.
I'm just a normal person,26,a mum,airforce husband-nothing controversial.I live in Perth atm and if you can get here somehow you are welcome here.no one should be alone at your age,feeling alone is bad enough.
I don't want to be 'known' or have my name in the media for it (as I'm related to a very well known Australian personality and don't want their name involved by association) I just want to help you if you need it because I remember 17 and it's as simple as that.
Please be safe and know that there are people who will help just because they can if you need it.I don't care what you did or didn't do.
Tweet me on your twitter if u want my number.(I won't put my twitter up because I don't want to be abused) just tweet 'steph contact me' and I will see it.
X
Kim, You have been offered so much help..... Dont you think its time to stop crying " I'm a victim " and get the help thats being offered... Recognise your problem and start taking control of your life.... PLEASE !!!!
Icoach I'm assuming your a sad and lonely, you are probably very unattractive, and maybe grossly overweight. These are not reasons to hate the world and pick on everyone else. I pity you.
The sad thing is I think that Kim has made alot of mistakes and must deal with the consequences.
Which I'm sure u did too when u were younger Icoach, that's if u can remember or chose too.
Wonderful steph
OMG ICoach....are you still going on with this? Go out, get drunk, pass out quietly in a corner somewhere and we'll organise for the men in white coats to pick you up.
Also icoach, can u please tell me your twitter address so I can harass and stalk you.
Thank you
For All people interested i suggest googling icoach2.0@gmail.com. All the posts from our "favorite" blogger icoach2.0. Now dont say its not you, after looking through the posts it features very similar angry outbursts. The funny thing is you are clearly not a 60ish lady. You discuss the iphone 3g and 3gs, whilst talking about the red cross that appealed during the afl grand final. Now you clearly do follow the afl, aswell as cricket.You also happened to use every swear word in the book, a personal favorite of mine is, i quote
" wrote:
On Oct 14, 3:060pm, "Clocky" wrote:
I Coach wrote:
> On Oct 14, 12:39 pm, Clare Werbeloff wrote:
>> Is this going to be like Yahoo!7
> Is WHAT going to be like Yahoo!7, pray tell? Not everyone is a mind
> reader you stupid wog bitch.
Read the subject line, stupid. "
Stupid Wog bitch is very pensioner like. Answers please haha or in your case "LOL"
Droid
Yet another person who thinks the mature approach is to lets these bully boy rapists continue treat woman as throw away sex machines.
Help is defined as learning to keep quiet, withdrawing gracefully however you have been treated. No one may upset the apple cart of abuse .
Yes Sarah its a clust fuck and there are young people on both sides of this, the young people on the football side are at risk as well. while these young men are allowed to think they can act without repercussions they will continue.
Therfe needs to be discipline and guidance for these young men, they come form all walks of life and end up with to much power before they have th maturity to manage it.
They need to understand there are repercussions to their behavior and no woman should be called a slut, no woman should be raped and the authorities are not going to let them to escape accountability for their actions.
Thanks @CKA I just feel really bad that she seems to have no one willing to just HELP her.we've all hurt people in our lives.No one can grow from it if everyone abandons them.She should be worrying about clothes and tv not where she's going to sleep tonight.
steph we've all been there.
i find it easy to read icoach if I look at a picture of Les Patterson prior to reading
http://www.portrait.gov.au/site/collection_info.php?searchtype=advanced&searchstring=:::::1:&irn=218
"Spread your legs" very lady like and pensioner like,
icoach 2.0 you are full of shit.
If your going to fake your identity stick to it.
icoach2.0@gmail.com
Zorro, please refrain your psycho babble... I actually do have the qualification behind me and know kids alot younger know when "enough is enough" with regards to the damage they have done to "themselves".
I in no way absolve the AFL & actually believe they should be accountable and KIM should sue them to the max...depending on the CHARGE.
BUT ~ Kim has to stop playing the "VICTIM" ~ At no point has Kim said she was raped....and if she has... I ask her to say it here.. IN PRINT ... ON THE RECORD... Then it has to be followed ... both morally AND LEGALLY....
Moment of truth time....
She has never said she was raped. I have never read that.
Neither have I ~ But Zorro did " They need to understand there are repercussions to their behavior and no woman should be called a slut, no woman should be raped and the authorities are not going to let them to escape accountability for their actions. "
@Droid
Maybe I've missed the comments but Kim doesn't play the victim to anywhere near the degree her "supporters" thrust it upon her.
@Steph
The last time Kim out a request for help with a roof over her head it was answered...I'm sure she'll be fine this time too.
Been reading Kim's blog and the comments for the last few weeks. I am wondering, kim, if you got paid for your "Who" interview? Surely that would cover you for a while?
And, honestly, the 'iCoach' stuff is kinda humorous if you read it all in one sitting. He/she seems to post speculative thoughts, then claim them as facts, then distort peoples' comments. It's a little like arguing with a literate fifteen year old girl (though 'productful' is not a word, so only semi-literate) with an over-inflated ego. Either way, kinda scary to see the delusional nature and kinda sad to see how much time is spent tap-tapping away at the keyboard on the blog of a 17 year old that he/she claims to hate! It did make me laugh.
I don't see her as a victim. Just a teenager who fell in love with the wrong guy.
@blackmask well I certainly hope so too.That's all I was offering.Just an option to a young girl and I get needlessly attacked for it.it really makes you lose faith in people when you get torn to shreds by Internet trolls for offering to help a stranger.
I guess paying it forward and having empathy is too hard for people to grasp these days.
How old are you icoach2.0,
looking forward to next seasons v8s?. Ive stumped you icoach havnt i.
@jetomber ..... suprised to see a "sane " comment.... Well said!
I'm about your age and to be honest not a lot of people our age get into the media. The only other girl which comes to mind is Jessica Watson. I find the blacklash to your appearances on twitter and this blog quite unnecessary. It's a comment on such people's general inability to feel empathy to you. I can't imagine what it'd be like to be abandoned by my family or friends but at the same time, I wouldn't have the balls to publicly shame (quite rightfully, really) men who should have known better. Such assfaces.
I wonder if anyone has paralleled you to Julian Assange? I certainly have, much to the surprise of my older, less open minded counterparts. In the way you exposed a side of influential, well known people and suffered the lame response seen right here in the comments of your blog.
I hope you can move on from this eventually, and that justice be served to the assfaces previously mentioned.
Droid
I was talking about the culture evident in St Kilda . The culture reflects a heavily sexualized culture of orgies, sexual, drug and alcohol abuse.
1 x St Kilda player has been charged this year with rape during a team function. Another player Milne has had allegations this year that his charges were dropped due to AFL pressure.
Kim recounts pressure form players to masturbate other players in situations that place very drunk very young teenagers in very difficult positions. Even after she refused the players did not leave the room while she had sex with a player while she was extremely drunk.
The pictures in question reflect young men about to engage in homosexual activities , with pictures clearly reflecting group masturbation.
the team is clearly hyper sexualised and engaging in high risk activities as part of its team activities. Anytime you mix a cocktail of large amount of booze, drugs, very young men and woman and habituate that behavior as part of the team culture there is bound to be serious issues arise.
All the participants are put at risk , Lovett for instance may have never have raped a woman (alleged) if he had not been placed regularly into this kind of culture. The young men are engaging in regular ritualized drinking and sexual practices that some cases may bring on a from of mania .
This kind of culture creates an environment where an accident is waiting happen environment.There has been a series of these "accidents" and the AFL need to carefully examine the systemic causes of these "accidents".
Yes St Kilda players have raped, some of these are on the public record and I imagine there are lots of incidents that have not come to light. No I dont think Kim has made accusations of rape, my reference to rape is in the context of my comments above
So icoach2.0 How old are you? Im guessing your about 35, overweight or grossly underweight, likely to have not been outside for the past year due to sitting on the computer, drink 5 ltrs of coke a day, play computer games and troll blogs and forums.
More than likely also a dole bludger and remain a virgin due to your social inability, hense the reason why bloging is your outlet.
Just for the record I dont support nor hate kim duthie, am just someone who has read the page and am sick of icoach 2.0
Inadvertently perhaps, iCoach has struck upon some truth -- women sleep with men for different reasons than men sleep with women, *especially* where one is a sports star (AFL or any other sport), and the other is a young, starstruck girl.
Hence, please stop calling her a sl*t.
I agree ~ "GROUPIE" is a more appropriate term... Bands have them, AFL have them etc... Infactuation is what it is .... THEY ( AFL PLAYERS) know this and KNOW BETTER!!!!...
@Edward - well done. Yes, the language and the attitude is exactly right.
"At no point has Kim said she was raped....and if she has... I ask her to say it here.. IN PRINT ... ON THE RECORD... Then it has to be followed ... both morally AND LEGALLY...."
That would be a really, really silly thing to do. Legal remedies do not come from Blogland.
ICoach is being paid to derail Kim's blog. Everyone should ignore his/her posts as they are just baiting supporters to get tangled in his barely understandable and poorly constructed arguments. In a country of nearly full employment, it's sad that anyone would take money to persecute a minor just because she has something to say about the corruption of our sports and law enforcement organisations.
Whoever iCoach is, you're pathetic.
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